Collaboratory Podcast

What is the Co?

by | 4 Sep, 2022

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What is the Co?

Collaboration, co-creation, co-creativity, collective, co-design, creativity, value creation, human centeredness, co-production… In this episode, we explore some of what people mean when they use “co” words. We also hear a little about the histories of some of the ideas which have shaped our usage of these words and the ideas that they point to. This episode features guests, Stephen Osborne, Emma Blomkamp and Antti Pirinen. Read the full show notes on our website


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Ind, Nicholas, and Nick Coates. “The meanings of co‐creation.” European business review (2013). – Open Access

Chambers, Josephine M., Carina Wyborn, Melanie E. Ryan, Robin S. Reid, Maraja Riechers, Anca Serban, Nathan J. Bennett et al. “Six modes of co-production for sustainability.” Nature sustainability 4, no. 11 (2021): 983-996. – Behind a paywall

Blomkamp, Emma. “Systemic design practice for participatory policymaking.” Policy Design and practice (2021): 1-20. – Open Access

Lewis, Jenny M., Michael McGann, and Emma Blomkamp. “When design meets power: Design thinking, public sector innovation and the politics of policymaking.” Policy & Politics 48, no. 1 (2020): 111-130. – Open Access

Osborne, Stephen P., Madeline Powell, Tie Cui, and Kirsty Strokosch. “New development:‘Appreciate–Engage–Facilitate’—The role of public managers in value creation in public service ecosystems.” Public Money & Management 41, no. 8 (2021): 668-671. – Open Access

Pirinen, Antti. “The barriers and enablers of co-design for services.” International Journal of Design 10, no. 3 (2016): 27-42. – Open Access


Stephen Osborne is the Chair in International Public Management and the Deputy Dean of the University of Edinburgh Business School. He is also a Fellow within the Edinburgh Futures Institute and is the founding and current editor of the Public Management Review journal. His book, “Public Service Logic: Creating Value for Public Service Users, Citizens, and Society Through Public Service Delivery” was published by Routledge in 2020.

You can find Stephen online on University of Edinburgh websiteRoutledge PressLinkedInTwitter

Dr Emma Blomkamp is a facilitator, researcher and strategic designer, best known for her work in co-design for behaviour and systems change. A Pākehā New Zealander living on Wurundjeri land in Melbourne, Emma is passionate about co-creating compassionate systems. She has been leading participatory design and social innovation projects with public purpose organisations since 2014. As an independent Co-Design Coach, Emma now focuses on supporting public, health and community organisations to apply creative and participatory approaches in their work.

You can find Emma online at Emma Blomkamp’s website, LinkedIn, Medium, Twitter

Antti Pirinen is University Lecturer in Spatial and Service Design at Aalto University, Department of Architecture, in Espoo, Finland. His research interests include human-centered and collaborative design in the context of interior space, the living environment and related services, as well as emerging conceptual and strategic aspects of spatial design. He has also studied the prerequisites of design in the public sector.

You can find Antti online at Aalto People website, Research Gate

This episode also included guests: Dimitrios Papalexis, Shona Coyne, Kaira Zoe Canete, John Carty, Kim Cunio, Jilda Andrews, Merryn McKinnon, Robin Davidson, Anni Doyle, David Lilley, Johanna de Ruyter, Rebecca McNaught, Natalie Barr, Virginia Marshall, and Brad Riley

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Collaboratory is written, edited and produced by Maya Haviland with production and editorial assistance from Nicole Deen. Audio engineering by Nick McCorriston. Music made especially for us by Seprock. Additional research and production support by Nicole O’Dowd.

Collaboratory is produced on the lands of the Ngunnawal, Ngunawal and Ngambri  people.We pay our respects, an ongoing gratitude to the custodian’s past present and future of the lands on which we work and of the knowledges from which we learn.

Collaboratory is a production of the Scaffolding Cultural Co-creativity Project hosted by the Center for Heritage and Museum Studies in the College of Arts and Social Sciences at the Australian National University funding is generously provided by the Australian National University Translational Fellowship Scheme.


Hosts: Maya Haviland, Nicole Deen, Audio Engineer: Nick McCorriston, Featured guests: Jenny Savigny, Stephen Corey