Collaboratory Podcast

Skills for Co-Creative Relationships

by | 18 Nov, 2022

Collaboratory Season 1
Collaboratory Season 1
Skills for Co-Creative Relationships

What are the skills and capabilities that are really important to facilitate co-creative processes? In this episode we hear thoughts on this question from a range of collaborative practitioners including three main guests David Lilley, Johanna De Ruyter and Callie Doyle Scott, who share insights from their diverse practice across theatre, business, social change and role play games. Topics we explore include:

  • The mindsets and attitudes conducive to collaborating effectively with others
  • What we can learn from tabletop role play game facilitation skills and improv theatre
  • The essential, but often overlooked, soft skills we need, such as listening and flexibility
  • How we can go about learning and practicing these skills and capabilities over time
  • What’s needed to build relationships that generate new, more imaginative, creative, innovative possibilities, actions or ideas or responses


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Johanna de Ruyter is the founder of Moving Communication and co-founder of Wicked Elephants Coop. She integrates core practices and principles from improvisation, storytelling, and embodied language as developmental tools to enhance group connection and communication.  Collaboration is at the heart of the methodologies she embraces – how we listen and respond to ourselves, others and our world. 

You can find Johanna online on Wicked Elephants Coop, Moving Communication website and Medium  

David Lilley is undertaking a PhD in public health, public policy and urban environments at the University of New South Wales. He also works as a consultant with Collaboration for Impact, supporting mission and place-based initiatives involving community around Australia.  

You can find David online on Collaboration for Impact website and LinkedIn 

Callie Doyle-Scott is an independent writer, game maker and contributor to the College of Engineering and Computer Science inaugural CoDesign Culture Lab at the Australian National University. She has written articles for the Verity La and Writer’s Bloc webjournals. 

This episode also included guests: Natalie Barr, Dimitrios Papalexis, Anni Davey, Kim Cunio, Tirrania Suhood, Emma Blomkamp, Rebecca McNaught, Diana James, Johanna De Ruyter, Anni Doyle Wawrzynczak, Doyen Radcliffe, Sharon Babyack and Michelle Halse.

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Collaboratory is written, edited and produced by Maya Haviland with production and editorial assistance from Nicole Deen. Audio engineering by Nick McCorriston. Music made especially for us by Seprock. Additional research and production support by Nicole O’Dowd.

Collaboratory is produced on the lands of the Ngunnawal, Ngunawal and Ngambri  people. We pay our respects, an ongoing gratitude to the custodian’s past present and future of the lands on which we work and of the knowledges from which we learn.

Collaboratory is a production of the Scaffolding Cultural Co-creativity Project hosted by the Center for Heritage and Museum Studies in the College of Arts and Social Sciences at the Australian National University funding is generously provided by the Australian National University Translational Fellowship Scheme.


Hosts: Maya Haviland, Nicole Deen, Audio Engineer: Nick McCorriston, Featured guests: Jenny Savigny, Stephen Corey